Comments on: Isn’t ‘Capitalism’ inconsistent with the basic doctrines of Christianity? http://www.freecapitalist.com/http:/www.freecapitalist.com/isnt-capitalism-inconsistent-with-the-basic-doctrines-of-christianity/ Advocating Capitalism as the Moral Basis of Free Society Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:06:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: michael http://www.freecapitalist.com/http:/www.freecapitalist.com/isnt-capitalism-inconsistent-with-the-basic-doctrines-of-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-22 michael Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:06:06 +0000 http://freecapitalist.com/?p=999#comment-22 capitalism, socialism and communism, etc., are all world systems. just as all, so called "christian" religions are man devised plans for SELF governed, SELF centered, SELF rightious justification. the religion of the hebrews is the ONLY religion in christion history that was handed over to man by G-D. that is not to say that if some one is a baptist or a lutherine or even a roman catholic (or any of the other some 30k + org's that claim to be "christian") are not christian, as i'm sure that a "few" are. my point is there is a distintion that needs to be made here, because the implication seems to be that christianity & capitalism are brothers, kindered spirits, that support each other or can be blended. capitalism is a world system. by definition(biblicly speaking)capitalism, being a world system, belongs to the god of this world(in case you don't know, that would be satan). scripture teaches that satan comes as an angel of light. there is a way that seems right to man, but, the end is destruction. christianity is a kingdom system. if you try mix chistianity with a world system, you will end up with a diluded christianity(read the warnings to the 7 churches in the revelation).can capitalism thrive in a socialist system, communist system, etc.? christianity(and i don't mean christian "religion") THRIVES in north korea!!! no matter the world system in place christianity stands alone & distint! so if you want to use the bible to support capitalism, please make the distintion between christianity & those who follow "christian" religion. capitalism, socialism and communism, etc., are all world systems. just as all, so called “christian” religions are man devised plans for SELF governed, SELF centered, SELF rightious justification. the religion of the hebrews is the ONLY religion in christion history that was handed over to man by G-D. that is not to say that if some one is a baptist or a lutherine or even a roman catholic (or any of the other some 30k + org’s that claim to be “christian”) are not christian, as i’m sure that a “few” are. my point is there is a distintion that needs to be made here, because the implication seems to be that christianity & capitalism are brothers, kindered spirits, that support each other or can be blended. capitalism is a world system. by definition(biblicly speaking)capitalism, being a world system, belongs to the god of this world(in case you don’t know, that would be satan). scripture teaches that satan comes as an angel of light. there is a way that seems right to man, but, the end is destruction. christianity is a kingdom system. if you try mix chistianity with a world system, you will end up with a diluded christianity(read the warnings to the 7 churches in the revelation).can capitalism thrive in a socialist system, communist system, etc.? christianity(and i don’t mean christian “religion”) THRIVES in north korea!!! no matter the world system in place christianity stands alone & distint! so if you want to use the bible to support capitalism, please make the distintion between christianity & those who follow “christian” religion.

]]> By: Je' http://www.freecapitalist.com/http:/www.freecapitalist.com/isnt-capitalism-inconsistent-with-the-basic-doctrines-of-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Je' Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:35:16 +0000 http://freecapitalist.com/?p=999#comment-21 God is not a capitalist simply because he is far above any humanly labeled system of economics. As Voltaire said, "If man is created in the image of God, we have certainly reciprocated." In America, we have created God in the image of a capitalist. It won't fly if you actually read the Bible. If there is one recurrent theme, it is repeated warnings against GREED. Serious warnings. Serious warnings that are ignored. Je' God is not a capitalist simply because he is far above any humanly labeled system of economics. As Voltaire said, “If man is created in the image of God, we have certainly reciprocated.” In America, we have created God in the image of a capitalist. It won’t fly if you actually read the Bible. If there is one recurrent theme, it is repeated warnings against GREED. Serious warnings. Serious warnings that are ignored.
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]]> By: Aaron Eiche http://www.freecapitalist.com/http:/www.freecapitalist.com/isnt-capitalism-inconsistent-with-the-basic-doctrines-of-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Aaron Eiche Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:28:16 +0000 http://freecapitalist.com/?p=999#comment-20 I was once speaking with a gentleman in my church (LDS) who owned his own business, and was quite successful. He told me something that has stuck with me for a long time. He said "The Lord needs rich people." He didn't mean it in the sense that 'The Lord needs your money' or that The Lord prefers the rich to the poor. What he was saying was that a righteous person who has created value in the world is more capable of doing good than a righteous person who has nothing. That person, having taken care of himself and his family now is free to help others. I appreciate Elder Richards' comments pointing out that Capitalism is less about money and more about Freedom. This is a tough distinction. We talk about Capitalism and Socialism, and we think of them as economic terms, but when we speak of them in proper context, they're about freedom... I've been listening to you for about 2 years now Rick, and I've heard you speak often of your never-finished book "God is a Capitalist: So why aren't most Christians?". I look forward to being able to read it. I was once speaking with a gentleman in my church (LDS) who owned his own business, and was quite successful. He told me something that has stuck with me for a long time. He said “The Lord needs rich people.” He didn’t mean it in the sense that ‘The Lord needs your money’ or that The Lord prefers the rich to the poor. What he was saying was that a righteous person who has created value in the world is more capable of doing good than a righteous person who has nothing. That person, having taken care of himself and his family now is free to help others. I appreciate Elder Richards’ comments pointing out that Capitalism is less about money and more about Freedom. This is a tough distinction. We talk about Capitalism and Socialism, and we think of them as economic terms, but when we speak of them in proper context, they’re about freedom…

I’ve been listening to you for about 2 years now Rick, and I’ve heard you speak often of your never-finished book “God is a Capitalist: So why aren’t most Christians?”. I look forward to being able to read it.

]]> By: Ian http://www.freecapitalist.com/http:/www.freecapitalist.com/isnt-capitalism-inconsistent-with-the-basic-doctrines-of-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Ian Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:49:56 +0000 http://freecapitalist.com/?p=999#comment-19 Depends on which "capitalism" you're talking about. If you're talking about capitalism as you've defined it ("a man’s free right to work, to choose his work, and enjoy the rewards of his efforts"), sure, a Christian can do those things; Christianity is not incompatible with that particular definition of capitalism. But Christianity IS incompatible with some other definitions of capitalism. For example, Ayn Rand advocated (in "the virtue of selfishness") that SELFISHNESS is the ideal of a capitalist economy. Selfishness is not compatible with Christian ideals. See http://www.freesoft.org/Essays/capitalism/ for a somewhat different point of view of one type of capitalism. Depends on which “capitalism” you’re talking about.

If you’re talking about capitalism as you’ve defined it (“a man’s free right to work, to choose his work, and enjoy the rewards of his efforts”), sure, a Christian can do those things; Christianity is not incompatible with that particular definition of capitalism.

But Christianity IS incompatible with some other definitions of capitalism. For example, Ayn Rand advocated (in “the virtue of selfishness”) that SELFISHNESS is the ideal of a capitalist economy. Selfishness is not compatible with Christian ideals.

See http://www.freesoft.org/Essays/capitalism/ for a somewhat different point of view of one type of capitalism.

]]> By: Political Party Crahser » Can Christians Believe in ‘Charity’ and ‘Capitalism’ at the same time? http://www.freecapitalist.com/http:/www.freecapitalist.com/isnt-capitalism-inconsistent-with-the-basic-doctrines-of-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Political Party Crahser » Can Christians Believe in ‘Charity’ and ‘Capitalism’ at the same time? Fri, 01 May 2009 14:52:09 +0000 http://freecapitalist.com/?p=999#comment-18 [...] Please read this article from FreeCapitalist.com called: Isn’t ‘Capitalism’ inconsistent with the basic doctrines of Christianity? [...] [...] Please read this article from FreeCapitalist.com called: Isn’t ‘Capitalism’ inconsistent with the basic doctrines of Christianity? [...]

]]> By: Jon Lewis http://www.freecapitalist.com/http:/www.freecapitalist.com/isnt-capitalism-inconsistent-with-the-basic-doctrines-of-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Jon Lewis Fri, 01 May 2009 14:05:39 +0000 http://freecapitalist.com/?p=999#comment-17 My wife and I were just talking about this last night. Interesting how I ran into this article today. We were talking about how it is so surprising to us that people in our Mormon and Christian circles can vote for candidates that are against capitalism. Even though they say the believe in freedom and free agency, they still vote to have it taken away. They just don't know, but they think they do. I have a brother-in-law that voted for Obama, and he is a Seminary teacher. He's a smart guy but how is he missing this one? It wouldn't have been much better with Mccain, but Obama!? Wow! I feel like I have a lot to do to help people around me see the importance of educating themselves on the matter. Thanks for this article. I'll pass this on to them. My wife and I were just talking about this last night. Interesting how I ran into this article today. We were talking about how it is so surprising to us that people in our Mormon and Christian circles can vote for candidates that are against capitalism. Even though they say the believe in freedom and free agency, they still vote to have it taken away. They just don’t know, but they think they do. I have a brother-in-law that voted for Obama, and he is a Seminary teacher. He’s a smart guy but how is he missing this one? It wouldn’t have been much better with Mccain, but Obama!? Wow! I feel like I have a lot to do to help people around me see the importance of educating themselves on the matter. Thanks for this article. I’ll pass this on to them.

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